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Everyone should be into tulpas.

1:33 AM

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist, I'll see myself out.

Stop telling everyone to fuck their tulpas (edited)

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Honestly I thought that was a high brow joke saying something about how hosts and singles are also tulpas in their own minds

seraphimonline

I think I am going to get back into tulpas

What had made you stop?

Unfastened Belts

What had made you stop?

I didn't get much progress and lost interest

Rusty

Stop telling everyone to fuck their tulpas (edited)

bro why do people fuck their tulpas

For fun?

yeah but like

4:01 AM

people seem to make them just to fuck them

4:01 AM

and i dont know if i would like to be a tulpa sex slave

Someone thinks I'm high-brow?

seraphimonline

and i dont know if i would like to be a tulpa sex slave

Have you considered instead enslaving your host/being enslaved by a tulpa? With consent of course. Consent is important kids. (edited)

9:02 AM

Different strokes for different folks n all that.

You don't have to have sex with your tulpa if you or your tulpa don't want too. Gray never created me to have sex, and actually I was pushy about having sex because I was interested in it. I was created accidentally, and I was comfortable with sex because I thought I was a little bit lewd (it was a weird expectation, it was just kind of a thing). I realized it wasn't a part of my personality later but I was still interested in sex. After that, we stopped for personal reasons and we didn't have sex for about a year. We decided to try it again, and nowadays we rarely have sex with each other. I used to be more embarrassed about this but I'm slowly warning up to being more comfortable talking about it. When we aren't sure about our headmate's ability to give consent or simply don't want to have sex, we don't do it. We have turned each other down because the other was too tired and clearly wasn't thinking straight. Additionally, we have turned each other down simply because one of us doesn't want too.

seraphimonline

I didn't get much progress and lost interest

Hey, that's awesome! Feel free to ask questions in #tulpa-questions

What I am describing is not an emotional state, it is my way of thinking. I deconstruct and make observations, pretty much constantly. I also do it when being playful. When I say judgmental I don't mean "Gah you're the worst and I hate you because you're flawed in this way." I am neither particularly like that to myself or to others, unless I'm extremely angry, which of course takes escalation to get to.

I relate to this. I used to be very judgemental of Gray and Ranger by nit picking things they would do. It was intended to bully when I was younger, but as I matured it more or less seemed to be my nature. After Gray told me I couldn't do that if I wanted to watch him, I realized I didn't have to be that way and that fed into my identity crisis. Ever since, I no longer do that, I was able to wire it out. I don't believe I get defensive, but I don't recall anyone actually succeeding in offending me to the point I needed to defend myself. I don't believe I can relate there at least.

1:56 PM

When thoughtforms act without a basis in reality, they are acting exclusively according to their character/personality. I.e. demons act like demons, your internal model of your friends act like your friends, your tulpa acts like your tulpa. So the goal here and with tulpamancy in general is to change the definition of <your tulpa> to include connection to reality.

I believe for me, my change occurred when Gray's sense of reality changed. I identified as a demon in the mind, and it was after Gray started to view the others as people and set different expectations for interaction I too started to change. Being nasty to others was no longer acceptable. I couldn't interact with the outside world like that of course, so I had to muster extra energy into being nice or I generally avoided it. I personally believe the in-wonderland interactions were more meaningful to me than what I achieved via possession before my identity crisis.

`Moltosha | Shadow System

When thoughtforms act without a basis in reality, they are acting exclusively according to their character/personality. I.e. demons act like demons, your internal model of your friends act like your friends, your tulpa acts like your tulpa. So the goal here and with tulpamancy in general is to change the definition of <your tulpa> to include connection to reality.

I believe for me, my change occurred when Gray's sense of reality changed. I identified as a demon in the mind, and it was after Gray started to view the others as people and set different expectations for interaction I too started to change. Being nasty to others was no longer acceptable. I couldn't interact with the outside world like that of course, so I had to muster extra energy into being nice or I generally avoided it. I personally believe the in-wonderland interactions were more meaningful to me than what I achieved via possession before my identity crisis.

Yeah exactly. Interacting with the outside world is a way of 'connecting to reality'

Yes, but reality doesn't always require possession. It can be achieved by explaining that your form is an avatar and you are still a normal person at the end of the day. If you are treated like a story character, you are one. If not, you won't be.

Of course

Zen

Have you considered instead enslaving your host/being enslaved by a tulpa? With consent of course. Consent is important kids. (edited)

what a concept

9:15 AM

but like i dont think you guys get my point

9:15 AM

it seems like theres a sizable minority in the tulpa community of people that make tulpas because they want to yknow

9:15 AM

defile them

9:15 AM

like no emotional bond or anything

seraphimonline

it seems like theres a sizable minority in the tulpa community of people that make tulpas because they want to yknow

There's a sizable minority of people who call non-autonomous, possibly not even thinking, thoughtforms tulpas because they are vivid or capable of causing hallucinations. There is nothing wrong with creating such a thing. They are a hypnotic mechanism that better enables you to learn to control your sexual responses. I speak from experience when I say down that path lies some good times that I wish were better explored by others. Something that doesn't feel emotion unbidden, or only feels one emotion, isn't a tulpa, it's every so slightly above a servitor. That is different from creating an actual tulpa for sex, which isn't possible without establishing some sort of emotional relationship. and will cause a serious backfire for you emotionally, if you were to actually disrespect their wishes. When it comes to between humans, it is a bad idea to begin a relationship with sex because it encourages a lack of boundaries and rapid development of a relationship on an emotional foundation with no hard substance to it, and possibly leading to situations where you end up discovering some fundamental incompatibility between you, and then you need to break that bond to get back out of it, which hurts both of you. That doesn't really apply to tuppers, now does it? Who are by default innately boundary-less and tailor-made to be compatible with you at least as friends, and generally need to learn to construct their boundaries from scratch in order to validate their independence. As far as I can tell, there is no concrete, behavioural reason, not to jump into bed with a tulpa instantly, other than fear or personal taste. The latter of which is of course, valid, but the former is not. (edited)

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I still feel my mind is boggled when it comes to the harder questions of tulpa ethics. I wish to believe that you shouldn't jump into bed with your tulpa immediately, but even knowing my own history I don't think it was abusive or detrimental to my development. However, Gray didn't design me for sexual pleasure, he realized I existed and wanted me to do whatever, essentially giving me a choice. I think not even giving your tulpa the choice is what bothers me more, but if your tulpa can't speak for themself do they have a will in the first place and are they any different from an NPC? The line between accidental and intentionally not a tulpa isn't as clear as I teach it to be, even though ironically teaching simplicity makes things simple for others. In general, it seems that if it is expected one will not end up with a tulpa, it won't happen. However, there are lots of exceptions to this, including "rogue servitors" and my system. My theory is the tulpamancer has to desire independence and autonomy while also allowing it to happen. Even if you think your servitor isn't a tulpa, treating them like one will lead to tulpa creation. The question I have is if you don't treat them like a tulpa, do they remain not sentient or at least emotionally dependent on you? === (edited)

2:20 PM

This is where things get more complicated. Can you have a tulpa that's otherwise dependent on you to the point they willingly neglect their ability to speak up? Are these tulpas content with their experience and only start to suffer when the possibility is introduced? Can a tulpa pick and choose, so they allow you to parrot them and then they express their autonomy elsewhere? Or are tulpas able to suffer and your maltreatment is hurting them? From what I know, I can think of examples where tulpas or other systemmates can be content picking and choosing (ex. soulbonds or tulpas that like to be parroted) and looking at our system, we realized it's possible that personality forced pain can be real pain if that entity is given free will, separate from Gray's (maltreatment in a fictional setting can leave a negative impact). Additionally, it's possible to mistreat a tulpa like another person, and they can retaliate. However, I think this is largely caused by people who don't understand the social consequences of their actions and not by manipulative hosts. Due to this blurriness, it's known tulpas can suffer but it's unclear if it's even possible for a host to intentionally inflict suffering onto their tulpa where the tulpa doesn't get anything out of it. I don't take a strong stance because tulpa ethics is messy, but it still bothers me deep down to realize a possible conclusion could be you can't mistreat your tulpa and therefore you can treat them however you want. I don't think that's right, because I strongly believe tulpas should be treated with respect. While I don't have much ability to provide answers to these harder questions, I think it's reasonable to stick to "be nice to your tulpa" and "if they say stop, listen." (edited)

To me, tulpa ethics is very simple. You share consciousness, so you have absolute knowledge of whether your actions are causing suffering, because you experience the suffering yourself, in first person.

2:25 PM

And nobody would willingly continue doing a thing that directly brings themselves suffering (edited)

I have indeed mistreated a tulpa rather substantially in the past, and I can confirm that the things that are not okay boil down to the things which cause you/them suffering, because you will both feel it, sharply. Which brings me back to simple consent, grace for each other, and consideration.

2:29 PM

It is, of course, a two-way street for a tulpa as well.

2:32 PM

Even if you think your servitor isn't a tulpa, treating them like one will lead to tulpa creation. The question I have is if you don't treat them like a tulpa, do they remain not sentient or at least emotionally dependent on you?

To be more specific, these thoughtforms only tend to be invoked in hypnotic trances in the first place. They are less something that will be generally around and more something that you will interact with in a specific way with a specific intent and at a specific time. This doesn't leave room for anything other than one response, and it's also important to understand that your cognition is actively compromised when you're horni. Neither you or they are capable of high abstract thought in such a state, let alone in a both suggestible and horni state. It's not exactly an environment that suits personality development.

2:33 PM

So yes, they remain non-sentient if you're only interacting with them in one way, especially if you don't expect them to be anything more than the character you're summoning for the fun times.

2:33 PM

Those kinds of sex servitors are not complex, far less complex than a highly developed literary thoughtform for example. And those also do not achieve sentience unless you actively interact with them in that specific way.

While I agree that hurting a tulpa would likely hurt the host, it is possible for the host to not associate with that pain. People abuse story characters all the time, they get traumatized, raped, etc. I know that if a tulpa gets that as their personality forcing they will suffer for it, but I think the tulpa's sentience can be independent of the host's enough to where the host won't associate themself with the pain while the tulpa does. If the tulpa expressed this pain and were seen as a sentient headmate, I think that would likely bring suffering to the host. If a tulpa is suffering, I highly doubt it's a secret. But if the host gains pleasure from the experience of inflicting suffering, would the tulpa give up their will to experience their pleasure instead? ===

2:42 PM

To be more specific, these thoughtforms only tend to be invoked in hypnotic trances in the first place. They are less something that will be generally around and more something that you will interact with in a specific way with a specific intent and at a specific time. This doesn't leave room for anything other than one response, and it's also important to understand that your cognition is actively compromised when you're horni. Neither you or they are capable of high abstract thought in such a state, let alone in a both suggestible and horni state. It's not exactly an environment that suits personality development.

I want to say what if they dwell on it after the sex, but I think this goes back to how much independence and autonomy is allowed in the first place? I feel we discussed that part enough I know the answer. Switching gears a bit, I do think it's interesting systems that report parallel processing tend to in general report more suffering and less cooperation. I however suspect this boils down to a reduced ability to consciously process what is going on and ultimately lacking the ability to work things out. If you can't think clearly, it's far easier and more likely to come up with more extreme ideas about your system and be very impulsive and emotional. I don't know if there's actually enough separation for abuse, I know pain can manifest unconsciously, but I don't think this question is too much more complicated when regarding reported parallel processing.

People abuse story characters all the time, they get traumatized, raped, etc. I know that if a tulpa gets that as their personality forcing they will suffer for it, but I think the tulpa's sentience can be independent of the host's enough to where the host won't associate themself with the pain while the tulpa does.

This is a strange way of putting this to me. Why would you presume that their personality forcing necessarily enforces current suffering? Most people are not familiar with how real PTSD works, after all, so this behaviour is very difficult to simulate accidentally.

3:00 PM

I have two of them, and I do know how PTSD presents, and neither of them have given me PTSD. (edited)

3:00 PM

Characters with traumatic backstories, that is.

A long kiss goodnight

While I agree that hurting a tulpa would likely hurt the host, it is possible for the host to not associate with that pain. People abuse story characters all the time, they get traumatized, raped, etc. I know that if a tulpa gets that as their personality forcing they will suffer for it, but I think the tulpa's sentience can be independent of the host's enough to where the host won't associate themself with the pain while the tulpa does. If the tulpa expressed this pain and were seen as a sentient headmate, I think that would likely bring suffering to the host. If a tulpa is suffering, I highly doubt it's a secret. But if the host gains pleasure from the experience of inflicting suffering, would the tulpa give up their will to experience their pleasure instead? ===

If there is pain to associate with there is pain being experienced. Dissociation from pain is a whole other maladaptation that both the tulpa and host need to fix.

I think we are talking about two different forms of dissociation from pain now. One which is aversive and escapist, and one which is a core underpinning of empathy.

3:04 PM

For example: Imagine a trauma victim in this instant. Imagine them shaking in terror. You are only experiencing a fraction of that output of fear through dissociation.

3:04 PM

That isn't the escapist, aversive type that needs to be addressed.

I don't think pain has to develop into PTSD to cause problems. However, you don't have to imagine how painful something is to inflict trauma upon yourself. You can simulate abuse, and it's possible to self-traumatize by hearing about someone else's trauma. However, I don't know how common this is for intentional tulpas. It's possible we can't know, all we have to work with is what people report. I know there's potential, but there's just no clear answer

However, you don't have to imagine how painful something is to inflict trauma upon yourself.

? Yes you do.

3:11 PM

Trauma is by definition extreme distress. If you do not cause yourself extreme distress you are not experiencing trauma.

3:11 PM

At all.

3:12 PM

PTSD, is what happens when trauma meets a specific mindset.

3:12 PM

There's no sidestepping the requirement for trauma, but the distress can be self-caused, but it's still imagined.

3:18 PM

Regardless I wouldn't disagree that it can potentially cause problems but at that point I have to wonder what doesn't? We've talked before on how every character trait has a dark side, Pride and Arrogance, Empathy and Vulnerability; Every trait ever conceived has a negative aspect. I actually don't supremely think dark backstories are the issue here at all, so much as mindsets going in. I'd highly suspect someone who is already a neurotic individual to reflect that onto their tulpas regardless of backstories, whereas someone more put together is more likely to form the baseline of their tulpas' behaviour regardless of their perceived pasts.

Fair enough, I was trying to go for you don't have to completely understand the trauma of someone with PTSD or worse to inflict trauma yourself. You do have to imagine the trauma as you said, but it doesn't have to be as damaging as PTSD

Though I must admit a morbidly curious side of me is fascinated by the notion. Unfortunately both my trauma-buddies sort of went through their therapy arc and came out the other side before I made them tuppers.

3:20 PM

I wonder what they would have been like if they had not.

seraphimonline

it seems like theres a sizable minority in the tulpa community of people that make tulpas because they want to yknow

I wonder where you see that

3:57 AM

we're not that active on this Discord but I doubt it's like that here, and it's 2000% NOT like that on the forum

3:57 AM

tulpas should be life companions, by default

3:58 AM

I guess if you're in some weird community of teens like on amino or miscellaneous tulpa discords you could see that

3:58 AM

sad if true

Reisen

I wonder where you see that

My first exposure to the community was actually in an MLP chatroom I regularly visited, and one of the mods came in talking about his MLP tulpa and, well, context.

What year was this exposure?

Reguile

What year was this exposure?

MLP was big back then. I was 12 or 13, so it had to be 2013, I think.

5:32 AM

I was in the chatroom for a while, but I'm pretty sure I was 12 because I remember reading that and going "Why are you telling us this when you know I and some other kids are present???"

Yeah, at that age it would actually be age appropriate to be watching that show.

5:40 AM

And that makes sense, there are still people floating around doing that nowadays I was curious if it was one of those modern people or this was an old story

Old story. I've seen the dude around before, since there's a Discord of that chatroom, but I never asked him what happened with his pony tulpa. From what I could tell, his personality is still, mmmm, something I could live without.

5:44 AM

I feel like that's a question that would open up a can of worms I'm not prepared to decipher.

5:45 AM

He went into a lot of detail, man.

Eww

10:39 AM

That's the worst exposure I have ever heard about

N: hello, Anyone here, Have advice for making a tulpa? (edited)

What did you want to know exactly?

Spades21

N: hello, Anyone here, Have advice for making a tulpa? (edited)

Theres are guides her maybe read them first

Spades21

N: hello, Anyone here, Have advice for making a tulpa? (edited)

I found this to be a useful mini guide: https://chupitulpa.tumblr.com/post/29297722965

Chupi/Goopi's Tulpa Log

So, now that I know that FAQ's hour counts may not be the best thing for a starting tulpa, what would you suggest? You write very well written accounts of your experiences, and I'd really like your...

I was inspired by someone in #RedditTulpas mentioning grading for tulpamancy as a joke, out of context I think it's an interesting concept to think about. I personally don't think we should give grades for tulpamancy. I think "grades" would fail to measure anything (you can either switch or you don't, how do you know you're closer to figuring it out or not until later), and even for something that might be measurable like visualization ability it can create problems because you can easily lose visualization ability over time. In the best case scenario, it would be like giving a grade to achieving more muscle mass. There's also the problem of everything being so subjective it makes no real sense to "grade" it. There could be some positive use for it, but what comes to mind is something similar to hour counts (being used correctly). If you use grades to gauge how meaningful or high quality your forcing session was, it could be helpful to do some self-reflection on how to improve. If you self-grade and focus on how to make your forcing sessions more detailed and enjoyable, that could be helpful for people. However, like hour counts, you shouldn't compare your "grades" to others asking who's a better tulpamancer and you shouldn't let your self-grades bum you out. (edited)

I would suspect such grading would best be performed internally and relative to the system's prior norm in order produce meaningful results. It's more meaningful to describe one's successes in terms of how they differ from the norm. For instance with imposition: Can you do it? On a spectrum of intensity how do they compare with your default senses? Does it take you a significant time to reach it via hypnotic states? These would give you a clearer idea on your progress. However, I would definitely think such a system would have only made shit even worse for me. I am deeply glad no one suggested that to me or I would never have stopped fixating on the whys and the hows of tulpamantic practice and would have treated it like a "practice" or a "study" indefinitely.

5:06 PM

In that regard I think it has a very similar mental trap as hour counts.

5:07 PM

So while such a system would actually give tangible data I think it would be an awful thing for someone to codify. It would totally be an info-hazard, to someone like me.

kerchow

Seeing discussion in #tulpa-questions , it made me think about how accidental systems have a different perspective and how traditional guides can make things harder for them. I jotted some ideas down to brainstorm, but after that I realized it could be that I'm projecting my experiences with anxiety and it has more to do with that than being an accidental system. While I did come up with a few ideas for accidental systems, I'm not confident having a different mindset would fix the underlying issues. Overall, it's basically the general same old advice but with a focus on accidental systems. In some cases a system may have a mindset that's difficult and/or unhelpful (i.e. you can only talk to your tulpa via lucid dreaming) and I think it helps to explain that mindvoice is the norm and is less clear cut. However, I think that just turns into a discussion about parrotnoia, and I'm not sure if my ideas for solutions (maybe do that mindset alongside mindvoice if possible, taper it off instead of full on change tactics, completely throw out the mindset, etc.) actually help. I'm feeling a little stuck on it. On the other hand, you have some systems who struggle with everything possibly being a tulpa. I feel better about what I have to day here, it's mostly the former I'm not feeling too great about.

I'm going to begin narration again, and try to get back to where we were with my tulpa. Wish me luck

I don't remember your history but narration is one of the least effective kinds of forcing. The key to good forcing is engaging the tulpa - narration is pretty one-sided, on the other hand. For narration to be decent the focus needs to be on how the traits show themselves in action.

The conversation in #tulpa-questions had moved on and there was desire to move anyway...

I disagree with "not all being in your brain" is what I am trying to stay consistent with.

Ah, I think I know where this is going, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I was making the assumption people view tulpas as separate enough individuals so they count as not the host, but there are other tulpamancers who see tulpas as separate enough to be their own entities but ultimately an extension of themselves. I'll give my post another try- the most popular approach teaches you a tulpa is not you, but you can define a tulpa to be anything you want, as long as you associate it with some entity in the mind, even if that entity is ultimately yourself. On the topic of roleplaying or not considering this improved definition- Creating a tulpa is a way to better understand yourself and take advantage of the fact the concept of identity is fluid. While roleplayers usually create characters for fun, tulpamancers keep their alternate identities typically for self-soothing, self-improvement, to observe their entities evolve, or to treat them as people and have a friendship or other relationship with them. While roleplaying and tulpamancy can sometimes be one in the same depending on who you ask, the intention and execution of both are different (edited)

Raptoir

I don't remember your history but narration is one of the least effective kinds of forcing. The key to good forcing is engaging the tulpa - narration is pretty one-sided, on the other hand. For narration to be decent the focus needs to be on how the traits show themselves in action.

Luminesce: If the narration consists of talking at nothing, I agree But if it consists of actually expecting/anticipating responses from your tulpa, then it's the most effective form of forcing (I mean.. basically the only core method at all, trying to get responses from your tulpa) (edited)

10:19 PM

And the middleground of "Narrating, with intent for your tulpa to be listening" is fine, not incredibly potent but that perhaps builds up said anticipation of responses over time

10:19 PM

Though I'd say it's dangerous to only narrate to thin air with no expectations but never actually focus on the tulpa-to-be

the most effective is stretching it a bit far but yeah like I said the focus needs to be on how stuff shows itself in action

I actually have a different opinion on narration and what it's all about. I think narration boils down to getting in the habit of talking to your tulpa, even though the stereotype is a tulpamancer reading a boring book or saying nonsense to their tulpa. Engagement or vocality with narration is fine, and using this understanding of narration I wrote this tip- https://community.tulpa.info/topic/17364-a-helpful-conversation-mindset-for-older-tulpas/

10:32 PM

Also, on that train of thought, I think we need more narration guides even after your tulpa is vocal. We're not the only system with communication problems and I bet there are other solutions out there

Part of presence is experience and consciousness as you seem to suggest, but it's important to understand that presence in the brain is also partly an illusion. The brain quite simply isn't aware at all times, and at those times you are not functioning in any meaningful way, not even to appreciate it. For singlets, they still experience an unbroken thread of awareness, even though it isn't actually how consciousness works. It's exactly the same with tulpas, if they simply expect to be present, they will experience that unbroken thread: The illusion they were there, and a closeness to the information the brain absorbed while they technically weren't really around. (edited)

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I believe that a tulpa can be present in a few rough ways. A tulpa doesn't exist forever at any of these tiers, they move up and down or can be described by multiple depending on the situation. 1. Existing at all. You just choose to speak to your tulpa. Are they present? They have to be, or you'd have nothing to talk to. However, are they active? Aware? Conscious? Probably not. 2. Then there is when you see something in the world and that makes you think of your tulpa. At this level you still think of it as you, but associations are automatic. Your tulpa is not only existing, but there are things in the gears hooked in to pull them up on occasion. They are present through you. 3. Then there is association that leads to your tulpa speaking up without you calling out to them. This would be like if you're walking down the street and your tulpa starts commenting on some stupid thing. At this point you can argue that your tulpa is present in at least some capacity, all the time. Both of these would include time. If you're so used to thinking of your tulpa you don't even need a trigger for it, wait long enough and it'll happen. It doesn't have to be an association to some silly thing like plants. 4. Then there is indirect presence - when you are thinking of your tulpa and relaying things to them. You ask them questions. They comment on what you say. Typically this is in the form of pretty short and easy reactions to things. They're around, but it's a level of ability that's generally sub-par. They aren't smart when they're like this. 5. Finally, there is when your tulpa is "in the awareness cycle" - they comment on their own thoughts and actions. They listen to what they say in your head and they can self correct and expand on what they're thinking. This is "maximum presence". (edited)

5:55 PM

------- So, what you mention when you say there is an "expectation they will act" I'd put on tier 5. They're around, but they aren't speaking and you're thinking of them. But it can be complicated. What does it mean when you sit and enjoy being around each other? That could mean the host is actively thinking of the tulpa. However, it could also mean the tulpa is "at tier 6", but observing their own silence? A tulpa at tier 5 will probably not say or do much, but at tier 6 the tulpa would probably be part of your thinking background noise and might even step in to comment on something they were thinking of within that silence. Something I started trying to do a while back is to try to watch my tulpa think for a while - they can't talk to me, I'll ignore them, they just have to sit there and be bored and spin for a while. It can be tough to maintain, but it's fun practice. I do think you should "hear it" if your tulpa is thinking, though. I don't super believe in the concept of background thought

Unexpected ideas without any conscious cognition behind them come from the unconscious. I think the rationalization of "they should probably have their own opinion" opens up the opportunity to be receptive to the creative whims of the unconscious. That doesn't mean they can't be stable, they can be supported and reinforced by more rationalization once they've become conscious.

When it lead to doubts, do you know why?

Sounds about right. I have no idea if that's true or not, but changing my mind about that did seem to help

I describe that as a passive mindset. It's not really passive as in no activity, but it's passive in the sense that focus isn't on creation but rather observation. (edited)

What could have benefit?

8:31 PM

Oh yeah for sure

8:31 PM

That would be an active mindset, because your mind is generating the tulpa's thoughts